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Joel Burton

Joel Burton
Member Plone Team, Active Zope Community Member
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By ZopeMag Staff | September 18, 2004



You relaunched the dormant Zope/Python User Group of Washington, D.C., which also serves the Maryland and Virginia area. What challenges await someone contemplating starting a user group and keeping it running?

Well, we haven't had any problem getting people interested--we've had about 50 people sign up on our website as members. The normal challenges for a users group, though, are always the routine stuff: getting speakers confirmed, getting reminder emails out, and making sure the room is scheduled. We've been lucky to have a host organization (Porter Novelli) that's been able to offer us great space in a good location, and we don't have to lug a projector or sodas or things like that to our meetings.

What do your meetings typically look like?

We've had about 10-18 people show up for the meetings. After introductions and some general Python conspiring, we've had a mini-presentation and a main presentation at our meetings. The mini-presentations are usually someone talking quickly about a new product they've tried, or a Plone add-on they like, or things like that. The main presentations have been longer and a bit meatier; these have been things like Archetypes (a CMF/Plone technology for creating content types) or Metaclasses (a particularly cool corner of Zope's object machinery).

What has been the most popular presentation so far this year?

There has been lots of interest in Plone--so much so that I wonder if we shouldn't have called ourselves the Zope/Python/Plone Users Group. Archetypes and Plone skinning are the highest rated things on our poll of interesting topics but our presentation on metaclasses was probably my favorite.

When did you first discover Zope and what was your first reaction to it?

I discovered Zope in late 1999, and, like everyone else, thought the through-the-web interface was amazing. I set about teaching Zope to Washington, DC nonprofit organizations in 2000, hoping to help them create a network where they could exchange products that they could find mutually useful.

What Zope Products do you use regularly?

Plone, and all of its many fantastic add-ons. It's been amazing to see how quickly Plone has grown into a top-notch content management system. Some of the Plone products that I always use are Archetypes, CMFMember, PloneSiteMap, and some of the polling and forum products.

What software would you like to see developed for Zope?

Right now, Zope and Plone need a good, well-documented, enterprise-ready versioning solution. We have several contenders, and I'm hoping that one shakes out as the clear winner.

With all the work you do with Plone and Zope do you feel that you still have enough time to keep up with things going on the in the world of Python?

I wonder myself. Sometimes, with Zope, you use such a small part of Python, it's easy to lose sight of other cool things going on. I have been playing with lots of the new 2.3 features, though, and have been eagerly looking forward to Zope 2.8, which should allow for the use of new-style-classes in Zope. That should really help bridge the advanced-Python and Zope audiences.

What kind of articles would you like to see in ZopeMag and our sister publication Py?

I'd like to see articles about the best practices for building Zope and Plone sites in ZopeMag. There's always a lot of focus on which products to install or what technical tricks to pull, but I think we could really use some information on building a solid, well-planned site using the sort of development standards attractive to businesses.

For Py, I always love to see information on useful libraries and on the use of object-oriented techniques for good design. And I'd love to see something on Twisted, too--we've had real interest in ZPUG on Twisted, and I don't think that everyone in the community understands what an amazing piece of software it is. [Py Editor's Note: We have in fact published an article on Twisted. It's freely available here.]

END of Interview.




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